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is bluffing, there's not going to be a fiscal cliff, they will do something to stop the taxes from expiring. he doesn't want to be herbert hoover obama. i'm putting that on the table. if you take that off the table, you look at the economy, profits, the stuff, there's no lending going on, what is your outlook for the stock market? ivities i think we would be higher if we didn't have this issue. we have low interest rates, not only here, but globally the monetary policy will stay easy. whether you like it or not, it's going to stay easy for a long time. >> i would argue that it's helped. i would look at the gdp revisions and take the over side. a number of companies said they weren't spending at all and if they were getting push-outs from their customers because of fiscal cliff. >> i'm saying we reported there's a contraction. that could be good for stocks. >> if you get a resolution, then you get past that and businessless start to spend again. then the 2.7% gdp number, maybe it's higher than that. if we could get off the backs of businesses, we would get 5%, 6%, and it would go to -- >> bu
as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is done. it's in a package. it's sitting at our desk. and all that has to happen is for the house to take it up. the only reason they're not taking it up is they want millionaires and billionaires to get their taxes cut, too. and this was a big issue in the campaign, thomas. so why don't we, instead of throwing insults, why don't they just pick up and pass that part as their own republican, tom cole suggested, let's have some good faith here, and we'll hammer out the rest of it. >> so senator, one thing you say about show me the money, if we talk about the lack of structural changes that are out there for entitlements, nbc's first read makes that point about that saying that the white house is sending the message that if republicans want entitlement reform, they're the ones who have to propose it. so is the white house forcing republicans basically to
, to avoid the fiscal cliff, taxes go up, dividend tax rates, personal tax rates, corporate tax rates go up, that that itself will cause economic weakness. what do you say to that? how are we supposed to balance the risks of doing things to avoid the fiscal cliff that may also hurt growth? >> one way or the other, there is a problem. if you kick the fiscal cliff down the road, then, you know, you're talking about the u.s. running deficits close to 4% to 5% over the next decade and that's cbo forecasts. if that occurs, you're talk about the debt getting more and more out of control. because the u.s. is the global reserve council, it's reliant on global reserve investment. >> just want to make sure that people have enough treasuries to trade. that's all it's about, charles. isn't that very generous? >> it is very generous. but left unaddressed, the fiscal problem is beginning to be a problem. but equally they don't want the full hit at this stage. so it is a matter of coming to some compromise, so you are going to have to see some kind of adjustment on the taxation side. that is what everyone
, is that there is a deadline on the so-called fiscal cliff which is if you don't deal with those tax changes in short term. then you go off the cliff. and that could have a strong impact on the economy meaning the white house believes there will be a political backlash against republicans if the president can blame them for going over the cliff and holding out. we'll see, there may be republicans like john boehner and eric cantor say we are not going to give in and maybe we'll go off the deliver. earlier todayers ski today -- es said there is a chance we are going over the cliff. that can rattle markets. megyn: a new piece of polling from rasmussen reports suggests that half -- suggests a growing number of americans are worried the economy will be worse off a year from now. 50% express that concern. that, 27% increase from october. just 34% think the economy will be stronger. that pop comes as one of the writers at "forbes" magazine identified a phenomenon called the death spiral states. these are 11 states where private sector workers are outnumbered by people dependent on the government. if you plan on
combination of tax rate increases and spending cuts now known as the fiscal cliff. >> jon: oh, yeah, that, that was-- (laughter) ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal-- cliff. >> it's the subject of tonight's cliffpocalypsema get-- mageddonocaust, our nation's solvable budget problem. (laughter) (cheers and applause) >> jon: i actually hurt my shoulder just there. it's like i'm 50. so we're now just a little more than a month away from going over the fiscal cliff which is, of course, as we all, what is the fiscal cliff again? >> a toxic combination of spending cuts and tax increases that kicks in at the beginning of next year. >> on january 1s its bush tax cuts will eck prior within the alternative minimum continuation would quick in, hiking taxes for more than half married couples with two children. the payroll tax cut was also expire. >> emergency unemployment benefits end, and 984 billion dollars in the automatic cuts in both defense and domestic budgets are triggered. >> it very likely that we're all going die. >> jon: why did they put that last provision in. see, here is what happened. tw
will go over the fiscal cliff. >> this is a compromise on taxes. this is a compromise on mandatory spending. and it's a compromise on discretionary spending over what the select committee had debated. >> i should mention that erskine bowles has put out a statement himself. while i'm flattered the speaker would call something the bowles plan. the outline in the letter the speaker sent to the president does not represent the bowles simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan in my testimony on deficit reduction. i simply took the mid point of the public offers, put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not talking about simpson -- erskine b
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
with the latest on the rapidly approaching fiscal cliff deadline of automatic tax hikes on everybody and what appears to be a stalemate in the negotiations. in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loo
cliff. debt ceiling. tax cuts. fiscal cliffs. >> that's 5-month-old mace john jackson and tax hikes and now the president and dan lothian from the white house, how is the president handling this? he's probably not doing as much laughing. >> reporter: what you saw today is the president bringing in americans. he says they will be impacted if the middle class tax cuts are not extending. they sent a message out there to republicans saying that they need to come on board and support this effort. republicans pushing back thinking that they don't think the upper income americans should see their taxes go up. what the president said to those who were here and those watching, put pressure on their lawmakers to support pushing out the bush era tax cuts for just middle class americans, not just through this effort but to text, to call, to send a fax, even twitter and the white house coming up with y2k referring to the amount of average middle class families would see their taxes go up by the white house says, $2200. so the pressure coming not only through social media but also the president i
at what comes in the fiscal cliff, all the tax increases they are not different than what the president wants anyway. he is talking about taxes on dividends and raising the upper rates and obamacare taxes on capital gains. a lot of stuff he wants to do that is mimicked in the worst-case-scenario. it is one of mother unsettling parts of the market, the market is at 13,000 and we have zero percent interest rate it is hard to put your money in bonds. >>neil: you see the market you are say --. >>guest: the average person is not in this market. in the 1990's the average joe was in the bull market, an investor society. >>neil: the average people hasn't been in the market since the meltdown? >>guest: why? well, taxes are a reason. this is the latest concern. >>neil: warren buffett said he never knew of a savvy investor that skipped out. >>guest: i was going do bring this up, he is a great speculator. that doesn't noon he knows a damn thing about economic policy. i can't believe people turn to him as the sage about the economy. i talk to investors all day, they worry about taxes. particularly l
've not discussed. i think that the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff, he wants all of the tax rates to go up, he needs that revenue,nd more important we know he is not going to get blamed. the madial protect him -- media will protect h. the other thing, this president, for a long time has tald about a balanced approach to deficit reduction, we assumed revenue on the table and spending cuts, but only conversation we're having is tax increases, there is no conversation about spending cuts. >> in january 2010, said he wanted to tap into entitlement reform, we have to look at entitlement. neil: steve quickly, one thing you are not looking at on the timeline, you think that markets will not have a voice in what happens, i saw, always, stay tuned. >> we'll see. lou: right, steve murphy thank you. an >> thank you. lou: mont monica rowley, what e bleepp >> i know. for your comments. republicans seem to be folding like cheap suits in the fiscal negotiations it just seems that way, doesn't it it does however seem that w way. james wrote,ea
in a program. we are talking about so-called fiscal cliff issues. today we are looking at the payroll tax cut issue. this will be coming up in just a moment with kim dixon of reuters. here is an update from c-span radio. >> tim geithner and rob neighbors are meeting at the capitol with how to avoid tax increases and spending cuts. stock futures are up on the expectation that progress will be made towards reaching a fiscal agreement. dow features are up over 60 points. lord justice levenson is about to release his report into a phone hacking. the investigation lasted 12 months. the report will make recommendations on future press regulations and is expected to criticize politicians and police. david cameron will be making a statement in response to the report. c-span is covering these events. jay rockefeller is weighing in on this investigation saying that he hoped the report would contain to clear the air and hold the media organizations involved accountable for their deplorable conduct. "i understand the main goal is to make policy recommendations. the core of the inquiry remains the unethic
, the consequences, are severe? >> oh, yeah. to go over this fiscal cliff, because republicans won't raise taxes, tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of americans, would subject the average american to big tax increase and enormous damage from the other cuts that would happen. and there's just no reason why the country has to go through that. and we have a chance to do something much better. not just for the long-term health of the american economy, but for the immediate challenge which is getting stronger growth and more job creation. >> but you heard the president say today if there's no deal, are you going to blame the republicans for ruining christmas? >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide they're going to block a deal because they want to extend tax cuts. we can't afford for the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> the president said on election night, you voted for politics, not action as usual. you're saying what we can expect from republicans. what can we expect from the president to break that cycle? >> a willingness to sit down and expl
heard about tax reductions and credits that would go away if the fiscal cliff passes in january. >> board or series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. joining us from the wall street journal is don mckinnon. thanks so much for joining us today. what are the loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts, and whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit, i guess. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are those that most people are familiar with. the big, itemized deductions are things like the home mortgage interest deduction. there is a deduction for state and local taxes that is very important, the deduction for charitable contributions is real important, and there are all kinds of other breaks that people are less familiar with. there are some that people are probably not aware of but all that are very big and important. for instance, the he
away from the so called fiscal cliff. a drastic combination of mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes that could plunge the united states back into a recession. while there are plenty of hard w0rds from both sides, some terms of a possible zeal are making the rounds. kate bolduan has been following the back and fourth. >> don't get too excited about that, there's only one way to avoid the fiscal cliff. spending cuts and tax hikes. house republicans and president obama need to strike a deal on reducing the national debt. they have soundly rejected a white house offer that included $1.6 trillion in revenue, $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings, as well as a permanent increase in the debt limit among other things. so far, the rhetoric has not softened. treasury secretary tim geithner arriving on capitol hill for high level talks, most notably with house speaker john boehner. >> good morning, everyone. >> how did it go? just listen. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious. about real spending cuts. >> a
to congress. january 1, 2013, new tax rates and rolls kick in. january 2, 2013, $110 billion in fiscal cliff spending cuts due to begin. march 27, 2013, funding of the federal government expires. august 1, 2013, white house's suggested deadline for resolving major changes to the tax code and entitlements. ron has this to say about the fiscal cliff -- let's hear from ray in philadelphia, a republican caller. caller: good morning. i think the republicans have to get out a better message. if we realize we ran out of money for all the programs we are having, what is going to happen in another 10 years? what happens is, these people earning more than $250,000, they worked from the age of 18 to move up the ladder and finally reached success. the pint the republicans have to make is it is time to lower taxes on middle-class families. it has reached a pinnacle. it is time to may be lower taxes on the middle-class. we have to cut spending because the economy is in such bad positicondition. democrats keep pointing out that 98% of businesses are less than $250,000. 98% of people working in those busine
investors in gold too. as they face a possible tax hike with the fiscal cliff, they're ready take their profits. we've already seen gold prices gain about 9% so far this year. now is the the time to book profits before you can likely pay higher taxes in 2013. gold etfs, as well as the gold futures price, down sharply on the session. back to you guys. >> all right. thank you so much, sharon. we've got 49 minutes before the closing bell. the dow jones industrial average is higher by 81 points. we're at the highs of the session at this point. 12,959. the nasdaq is also in positive territory by 14 points. >> some of the nation's top business leaders set to meet president obama at the white house. there's a live shot of it. up next, we're joined by one ceo who says stop all the tax hike talk, we have a spending problem. that's what matters most. >>> plus, rising above the rhetoric. we hear from one republican who says the best way to fix the debt is to cut spending and raise taxes on the rich. >>> and later, don't look now, but the tax benefits from your 401(k) could be on the chopping
people who run small businesses, people who are most targeted by the tax increases. take the fiscal cliff stuff out, obama taxes target small businesses, let's say have you a small, not unreasonable you make around $500,000, you. we like 15 people. you raise their taxes, they will lop off 2 or 3 of those people. neil: who are these small business guys that got in. >> i'm sure some of them have -- you know, listen, not all small businesses are monolithic. neil: who are big business guys. >> lloyd, just so you know, i know him personal, saying how great the president's plan is, ear something like warren buffet, they made so much money already. what do they care if you take of their taxes a little bit. james gorman that runs morgan stanley, i really like, said put pressure on congress to get a deal done, i am sure that that james would not care if they raised upper rate on people, but morgan stanley still pushing for certain deducts that help business, i would be careful with listening to the quote, unquote corporate. >> we did look at this, we cannot prove a exact number but overwhelming n
. so what about this fiscal cliff? some would suggest and your party, as a matter of fact, said hey, let us go off the enand maybe you can cut back the tax increases on other -- edge and maybe you can cut back the tax rexes on others later, but that would at least mean -- taxes on others later, but that would at least mean people making more would pay more. >> i think it underestimates the potential impact on the economy and the very people we're trying to protect would be the most affected if that happened. so i don't think it's a good idea at all to go off the fiscal cliff. >> first of all, two questions, would you be willing to work through the christmas holiday to make sure this gets done? >> absolutely. >> second question, what about foregoing any pay until you solve this problem? >> well, the problem with that is there are 535 of us and i'm willing to solve the problem and compromise. i don't want to be penalized because of somebody else. >> fair enough. congressman connolly, we thank you for being here. i take it that means you want to keep collecting your paycheck. >> i want
. yet another big corporations rushing to avoid a huge tax bill on the fiscal cliff. oracle said it would pay three of next year's dividends this year. taxes on dividends are set to go from 15% to as much as 43% next year unless congress changes the law. the big winner tonight oracle ceo as the company's largest shareholder you will get nearly $200 million in today's deal and will avoid about 60 million in taxes. he did not vote for today's exhilarated payout. he sure does profit from it. a lot more still to come, including a small business owner who says she feels helpless after superstores and the and the government is doing nothing to help her. the proof is in the pudding. albert done a new report showing a tax hikes on the bridge backfired in britain. we will politicians here techno? stay with us. ♪ gerri: do you remember willie sutton? he was the depression era bank robber who held up about 100 banks over 40 years. when asked why he was famously reported as answering, because that is where the money is. i thought of slick willie today as i was listening to the reporting of
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past the fiscal cliff deadline and postponing the battle over the tax cuts for the wealthy until next month. >>> some things going on at the hospital. two australian deejays called the hospital posing at queen elizabeth and prince charles and got through to kate's private nurse. shockingly, if you hear the audio, who briefed them on her condition. >>> and a health scare for anderson cooper. he says he went blind for almost two days. he actually showed a picture of himself wearing an eye patch. he says he lost his sight for some 36 hours last week, while reporting from portugal, after spending a couple hours on the water. cooper said he felt like his eyes were on fire. it turns out, his eyeballs were sunburned. go figure. >> it can happen. >> it can apparently. >> i did not know that. >> you do now. >>> here's diane sawyer, with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> hello, josh. hello to everyone on "gma." tonight, it's not just holiday shopping. join the movement. "made in america." creates new american jobs. american companies are saying thank you. the great "made in america
how it's being proposed and more on the fiscal cliff, specifically atx pyring tax credits that will affect families and businesses. to get you set up for our next segment on the filibuster rule, these are proposals that will take place in the next congress. minority leader mitch mcconnell debated this. here's a bit of that debate. >> mr. president, we believe that there should be one aspect of the change that is that it should be a non-debatable motion of proceeding. simple as that. the american people -- only ones who disagree that think this senate is working well are the republican leader and those republicans in congress. >> to the republican lead center >> yes. i hope the majority leader will stay on the floor here. i gather the way he proposes to affect this rule change is to deal with the simple majority. you didn't address that issue. >> but of course. >> well, -- >> that statement is untrue, and i don't accept that. >> mr. president, i believe i have the floor. that's the point. what the majority leader is saying he will break the rules of the senate in order to c
't be a fiscal cliff deal without that tax increase. the white house today dismissed that counteroffer as nothing new and urged republicans to "get serious about the fiscal cliff negotiations." but, scott, that's exactly what republicans were saying about the president on friday. >> pelley: wyatt, thank you. the president has not decided whether to order an end to a strike that has crippled traffic at the nation's two busiest seaports. the ports of los angeles and long beach shut down after a few dozen clerical workers walked off the job and dock workers refused to cross their picket line. bill whitaker has the latest. >> reporter: 11 huge cargo ships are stuck offshore, piled high with containers of food, toys, lumber. 14 others sit untouched at the docks. >> if you guys could start handing the fliers out. >> reporter: transporters, wholesalers and retailers are growing angst. ingrid lazcano, owner of andean dream, imports quinoa, popular right now in the u.s. her last shipment was diverted to mexico, another was diverted to chile. >> we have about $400,000 worth of merchandise at stake and our
. >>> call it the fiscal cliff follies, because with 28 days remaining before massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in, democrats and republicans are ridiculing each other's ideas. it's a recipe for recession. the gop offering up its first plan which calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings over the next decade, including $800 billion in tax reforms, 600 million in medicare reforms and spending cuts. but the president rejected it outright because it does not contain tax hikes for the rich. time is running out. any sign of serious negotiation on the horizon? >> i'd say on the horizon, that would be fair. the log jam that you're watching, we're expecting to continued likely until next week. so don't be surprised if you see that. i think the policy prescriptions here, what needs to be done to find a package for deficit reduction are clear. right now you're watching the politics play out. all you need do is open your ears, listen to the white house, listen to congressional republicans you'll hear them playing the blame game. >> making vague promises about achieving revenue through capping d
>>> hi, everybody. welcome to the "wall street journal report." i'm maria bartiromo. fiscal cliff or fiscal mole hill? worse than we thought or nothing to worry about? two strategists with different opinions. and why what happens in washington may not matter that much. >>> and decisions, decisions at year-end tax time. we'll have important advice. >>> and he went from living on the street to living in the lap of luxury. john paul dejoria's remarkable ride. you went from homeless to a billionaire. the "wall street journal report" begins right now. >> here's a look at what is making news as we head to a new week on wall street. in washington, posturing politics and high-stakes poker with america's economy at stake. president obama's initial offer on the fiscal cliff was resoundingly rejected by republicans. it included a $1.6 trillion tax increase, double what he campaigned on. also included $400 billion in entitlement cuts eliminating the need for congressional approval to a raise the debt ceiling. the markets rebounded later in the week following the latest hopes on a fiscal cliff
cliff means a tax hike for just about everybody who does have a job. but today, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree toto raise ta rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no rey talks between the white house and republicans for a week. but late today, diane, one possible sign of progress. the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said, but the stock market closed higher today with traders, at least, apparently optimistic that a deal will be reached. >> one phone call can do that. okay, thank you, jonathan karl. >>> now, we head overseas to cairo. another day of bloodshed and chaos there. battles erupting in the streets. look there, outside the presidential palace. between those two support egyptian president morsi and tho
, that is significant. if we do not protect those families from the fiscal cliff, they will see their annual taxes go up $2,000. it will be noticed. it should not happen. i hope the house will take up the president's challenge an invitation and pass the senate bill to protect families making less with one vote, they can avert the fiscal cliff for 98% of american families, at least when it comes to income taxes. it is necessary. we know what has happened over the last several decades. it is the worst it has been in almost 90 years. between 1980 and 2005, in the 25 year time period, more than 80% of the total increase in america's income went to the wealthiest. 90% has got to the top 1%, the median income of the middle class has declined. i could go on and give illustrations. i do not think i need to to this group. when we address the issue of revenue in taxes, i insist in every meeting i have been in that it needs to improve it for low income categories. that is the starting principle for those of us who are progressives. the second thing we must insist on is to protect the safety net for america. make n
that would avoid the fiscal cliff. that is $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts and $600 billion in tax hikes that would result from the expiration on december 31, the consequences would simply be devastating. the economic impact on the country and the american people would mean the loss of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs. the very likely onset of yet another recession. the white house timothy geithner on capitol hill today. he went there empty-handed to meet the party leaders. house speaker john boehner who has already offered to raise tax revenue finds himself not in a negotiation, but rather competing in the white house media campaign. this is how speaker boehner reacted earlier today to the demands of the white house that were laid out by timothy geithner in a closed-door meeting. the treasury secretary reiterating the president's call for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue and timothy geithner currently offering nothing in return. in lieu of federal spending. >> first, despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious
. everybody is looking at the fiscal cliff, tax the rich more for the fiscal. okay. we've got that. but we are definitely going to tax the rich just a little bit more come january 1 to pay for obamacare, specifically taxes on capital gains, dividends going up to just a little bit more, just a little bit more on january 1, and also a little bit more on income of those people making more than $200,000 a year. so we have defined rich down to $200,000 a year. it was a lot higher than that, but guaranteed january 1, a little bit more for obamacare. >> steve: when you say a little bit more, you mean like 3 or 4%, which adds up. >> it does. it's 3.8% extra as a capital gains tax. >> steve: that's a done deal. that's baked into the health care reform? >> that's it. there is no discussion about it. that was passed two years ago. this is going to happen. then you've got maybe a little bit more on income and other forms of income if we approach this fiscal cliff and the president gets his way. he is digging in his heels on higher tax rates on upper income earners. that will be a little bit more from
. >> thanks, chris. >>> 33 days away for the fiscal cliff and another republican defies grover norquist's tax pledge. kevin yoder is "outfront" to describe why he did it. >>> and a woman died after doctors refused to perform an abortion. the woman's husband is here next. but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> we start the second half with stories we care about where we focus on our reporting from the front lines and we begin with new photos obtained by the institute for science and inte
, theman some democrats blame for the fiscal cliff impasse, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. and the many ands a finger to about fixing it, michael reagan, founder of the reagan group. i wantto start with the republicans plan that they put on the table. they have been accused of doing nothing and all. they come up with their own plan which inclus 800 billion in revenue from closing loopholes and eliminating deductions and then 1 billion in spendin cuts. it is being rejected from the get go by democrats. grover, what do you say? >> i think the republicans had a very good pl called lorraine budg. they alloted for it in the house. itsaves $6 trillion over the same decade, and they did not raise taxes and all. i really think of the president is not iterested in compromising, and not sure it is wise with the republicans to keep moving in his direction. i suppos it ge you five minutes on the nightly news to say you are being reasonable, but the president keeps saying he jst wants massive tax increase no spendin cus. he wants to increase spending as part of this deal. the pr
cliff. log onto www.wusa9.com and click on fiscal cliff. >>> it is a tax originally designed to make sure that the wealthy folks pay at least some tax, but the middle class could feel even more pain if we go off that fiscal cliff because the alternative minimum tax which was passed in 1969 to catch a small number of families that pay no taxes, if we go over the cliff, it could impact one in five taxpayers. >> the average amount they say for each family is 3,500 per year. that would be 300 a month, but that's a lot of money. what are you going to give up? >> if the budget deal is not done, the amt tax could apply to individuals making just $34,000 a year and joint filers earning $45,000 in 2013. that's another 28 million households and a lot of deduction goes away as well. >>> turns out you can't say whatever you want on the internet. a judge ordered a fairfax county woman to take down parts of her nasty review of her contractor and she may yet face hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages. bruce leshan is live in fairfax with the details. bruce. >> reporter: yeah, anita, jane per
critical in the fiscal cliff discussion is we are talking about the patch for the 2012 tax year. unlike the rest of the fiscal cliff, which affects tax rates that will play next year, the patch applies to the return that we will all have to file early next year. so if there is not congressional action here, there is an abrupt increase in tax on the 2012 taxable year in 20 of 11 approximately 4 million people paid the amt. if there's not a patch, 30 million people will be required to pay the amt in 2012 for the current taxable year and they will pay an additional $90 billion in tax. very few of them have any idea. >> host: is the irs prepared? >> guest: the irs took a fairly unusual -- but i think correct position. they took the position that congress will do the responsible name. so they did their tax program for next year, for the 2012 return, assuming congress would enact the patch before the end. i think that was a reasonable thing to do because i believe they will do that. however, it does mean if there is not a patch, the tax return idling season next year would be quite chaotic. >
but frozen. so far - no een >>> tensions over tax hikes and spending cuts have left the "fiscal cliff" talks all but frozen. so far no face-to-face meetings have been scheduled between the democrats and republicans. cbs reporter danielle nottingham with the president's push now to sell his plan to american businesses. >> reporter: president obama asked business leaders this morning to support his plan to prevent a fiscal crisis. >> let's allow higher rights to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles. >> reporter: if no deal is reached between democrats and republicans before the end of the year, taxes will go up for everyone and automatic spending cuts will kick in. the president wants bush-era tax breaks to expire for households making $250,000 or more. republicans are adamantly opposed to that. >> closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. >> reporter: republicans are also pressing their case with the public. house gop leaders invited
to fisk the fiscal cliff, -- listen to a sampling of that. >> you will see your taxes go up on january 1. i am assuming that does not sound too good for you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you before christmas. that is a scrooge christmas. melissa: is the president right to put the blame on congress or are his demands unrealistic? joining us for the second today is juan williams. the president setting the republicans up to take the blame for all of this. >> well, you know, speaker boehner had a president here in washington. he is very clear that he is not trying to impose his real. he says tax hikes just are not good for the economy. that money should be invested. you are hearing, though, from the white house, we have already put in place a trillion dollars of cuts. we have something on the table. we are the republican proposals. we are talking politics in that nobody wants to go first and really lay out what they are about for fear that there will be a tremendous political consequence on things like cuts to medicare. lori: those cuts, as you know, nearly not enough. the second qu
of prominent democrats saying we should go over the fiscal cliff and let taxes go up, which would be a huge mistake in terms of the economy. we've got lots of analysts that have looked at it, economists have said, if that happens, you'll reduce economic growth, you'll lose jobs, you're going to lower take-home pay for americans. it is a big mistake to do the president knew that in 2010 when the economy was weak. the economy is even weaker now than it was in 2010. >> greta: another no surprise surprise the debt ceiling of $16.3 trillion. we're going to hit that at the end of december. the treasury can do some sort of phi nagling so we're not out of credit until mid-february, just when most americans are expecting the federal government to pay their tax refunds. at least right now with the debt ceiling as it is, there's no money to pay the tax refund. >> right. as you pointed outer, this debt ceiling issue, $16.4 trillion that you're going to exceed, and they'll use, quote, extraordinary measures or tools they have available to -- >> greta: let's face it. if you don't have any more money, you
rather have us go over the fiscal cliff and then vote to lower taxes and increase spending and they can't bare to raise taxes and reduce spending and that's where we'll end up in three months and have a vote to lower taxes and increase spending. >> jonas what does it do in the short-term, i know you're talking long-term. but short. >> they're scaring erybody about this, like we've got to keep pushinon or the world is going tond and it's not as bad a the politicians are pretending it is even. look, it's not a good thing, but psyched into a level and it will be worse than the real effect of having the tax increase on the government level and that's the danger, using it as a tool to get their policies on boats sides of doing this, and they're going to cause -- the first recession is caused by psyching themselves into it and making people scared that things are going to end if we let it happen. >> toby, the final wor re? >> yeah, now, we've seen this movie before and know how it ends and now, at some point, it's start after tragedy for the united states and are we going to vote them in-- >>
to the other battle brewing tonight, the clock is still ticking on the fiscal cliff. 35 days, taxes including on the middle class, will rise in america unless congress reaches a deal. abc senior white house correspondent jake tapper tells us the latest on this duel that would affect every single american family. >> reporter: the manufacturers of these angry birds building sets in pennsylvania will later this week be visited by president obama as he makes his case for raising tax rates on wealthier americans as part of a larger deal with congress. and while the president is not trying to provoke anger necessarily, he is trying to drum up passions for his proposal. meeting with small business owners today such as texas crop duster manufacturer, david ikert. >> there was a lot of talk in the room about certainty. small business wants certainty so they can plan, strategically look at how we move forward. >> reporter: and releasing these showing them pleading for their tax cuts to be extended. >> if you take away the $2,200 from my paycheck, it would severely impact my family. >> reporter: while t
insistence that key to the u.s. beginning to pay down its debt and avoid going over the fiscal cliff is raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up, and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: if republicans agree to do that, the president told bloomberg television, he'll agree to serious spending cuts. republicans have offered to raise taxes on higher incomes by $800 billion, not by raising tax rates, but by eliminating some deductions and loopholes. during last year's budget showdown, the president said he wanted to do exactly that. >> what we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> reporter: but now the president does not. he says it will not raise enough revenue. >> it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's just a m
. there are concerns about tax increases that would be coming absent some sort of a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> the fiscal cliff has been the issue that has stopped or sort of made companies reluctant to push cash to work, to hire folks. is that stopping you, or are you moving forward regardless? >> actually, we've been moving forward with our investments. we're spending some $32 billion this year on energy projects around the world. i expect we'll spend even manufacture thmore than that next year. all we need is the opportunity to invest. we need to have access. we need permits, and we need a tax structure that supports what we do. there will be a tremendous opportunity to create jobs and government revenue if we're given that opportunity. >> let's talk about that. the access to the product all around the world has got p tougher, hasn't it? >> it has. i'm encouraged by the sale we had this weekend. i would encourage the administration to do condition sales. right now, most of our continental shelf is off limits. we need to address that. if we do that, there's an opportunity across public a
billion in special dividend payouts ahead of the fiscal cliff and a likely increase in taxes for those payouts. when we come back, we're going to look at whether that could actually hurt stocks once though payouts are completed. >>> then, hewlett-packard blaming much of the financial problems at the company on the acquisition of autonomy, saying autonomy duped them. former hp ceo carly fiorina is with us. she's not commented yet on this major corporate story. she will coming up. stay with us on that. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ you can stay in and like something... or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you
to get a jump on the fiscal cliff. details and the oracle of all my speaking out on tax policy. next, i'll break down why warren buffett is just plain wrong. ♪ gerri: warren buffett is getting a lot of attention this week for his comments on the fiscal cliff . basically, the investing mobil says it rich people, that is people like him, should pay more in taxes. it sounds magnanimous. i believe the case he builds for higher taxes, well, the reasoning as a big hole in it. here is why. the contention that rich people willtop hiring is nonsense. we already know that more than a million americans to employ people and paying there taxes through ere individual income-tax. according to the heritage foundation, the amount their taxes would rise would be equivalent to one employee salary. one person there would not hire. we will what is more, rinsed and young says these tax hikes would kill 710,000 jobs. buffett also says that rich people will stop investing. again, nonsense. when you tax something usually get less of it, like cigarette taxes to curb smoking or carbon tax to curb carbon emissio
businesses. >> going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and hurt job creation in our country. this is not good for our country. it's as simple as that, and the president understands it. >> reporter: corporate leaders were also making the rounds. a group from the simpson/bowles backed organization "fix the debt" stopped in for talks on capitol hill. and later, c.e.o.s from yahoo, archers daniel midlands, caterpillar and other companies headed to the white house for a meeting with the president. >> i'd like to hear the president's views about where the country is headed and support him any way we can. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner will meet with congressional leaders tomorrow, so there is hope serious face- to-face negotiations will soon be under way. darren gersh, "n.b.r.," washington. >> susie: one of the c.e.o.s meeting with lawmakers today joins us. he is david cote, c.e.o. of honeywell. david, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. did you get the sense from house speaker boehner, he is ready to make a deal? >> i would say there is a
-mustache. >> are the media cheering for a leap off the fiscal cliff? >> republicans are committed to continuing to work with the president to come to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. >> as both sides in washington try to hammer out agreements on taxes and fiscal spending, they get the full media treatment as the press try to pin the blame on the g.o.p. is it working? details next on news watch. okay, here's the plan. you have a plan? first we're gonna check our bags for free, thanks to our explorer card. then, the united club. my motr was so wrong about you. next, we get priory boarding on our flight i booked with miles. all because of the card. and me. okay, what's the plan? plan? mm-hmm. we're on vacation. there is no plan. really? [ male announcer ] the united mileageplus explorer card. the mileage card with speci perks on united. get it and you're in. why does my mouth feel dryer than i remember it to be? there are more people taking more medication, so we see people suffering from dry mouth more so. we may see more cavities, bad breath, oral irritation. a dry mouth sufferer doesn'
pelosi was talking about wasn't exactly the tax cuts now, fiscal cliff later. both sides have said this has to be a two-step process, there has to be some kind of commitment in downpayment on taxes and entitlement cuts and sets up a framework for broader and comprehensive tax and entitlement reform next year because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea that republicans get more leverage if they give the president taxes now and hold out on, and hold the line on the debt ceiling like they did last summer successfully is something that is new and i think a different kind of two-part plan that republicans are starting to consider as maybe a backup plan that gives them the ability to say we lost the 2% tax hikes now, but we're going to fight later on the debt ceiling. >> let me bring in congressman james lang foford, fifth rankin republican in the house, congratulations, good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> let me ask you about the possibility of some sort
broadening tax reform that is emerging in the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiation says tax reform that limits itemized deductions among high taxpayers. that is a very boring sentence. do not be bored. this is important. here is what it actually means. as former budget director pointed out in a bloomberg column, 90% of those itemized destructions for the rich is three categories. deductions paid for taxes paid, mostly state and local. home mortgage interest and charitable interest. look at each in turn. first, home mortgage deduction. most economists will tell you cutting the home mortgage deduction particularly for rich people is a good idea. no real reason the tax code should subsidize the purchase of more mcmansions. i'm not mar particularly worried about that. second, state and local taxes paid. that's just a tax shift. instead of raising taxes on you by simply raising them on you, we raise them on you by making our state and local tax bill higher. it'll pound on high tax cities on states which means it'll hit the cities and states by making them less attractive places for people to live.
of the so called "fiscal cliff" negotiations. today we are focusing on the bush-era income taxes. we're having a roundtable discussion in our last hour from a democratic and republican perspective on that. so stay with us. madeleine in thousand oaks, california, republican. caller: i am the wye fire the teacher. i feel i am an independent republican. -- i am the wife of a teacher. in california we feel we have too many administrators. the teachers need time to get further education and that should be demanded. there are teachers who should not be there. but there are parents who are very aggressive who come to school and have come on the playground and have hit the teachers. the teachers have insurance if something happens. one student came to school with her mother is underpants. it's not only the military that get tempted, but teachers get tempted also. host: we have a line set aside for educators this morning. we want to hear from them as well as we continue this discussion on how you would fix your school system. yesterday in washington recovered an event with florida governor je
says republicans offered a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff through the significant spending cuts and tax reform and are committed to working with the president. >> this is one reason why we believe we put revenue on the table. as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. to avert this crisis. >> texas senator john cornyn says the bipartisan simpson-bowles deficit plan offered meaningful savings worth pursuing. >> they identified $1.1 trillion tax expenditures, benefits, deduction, credit and the like that could be cut as part of grand bargain. we ought to look at that. we need to flatten the code, simplify it and make it pro-growth. >> on the democratic side, senate majority leader harry reid told reporters he would like credit for what congress previously cut. >> we have already done a billion dollars worth of cuts. >> today, the top democrat in the house took a similar approach. >> i think it's important to note we have already agreed to $1.5 trillion in cuts in the budget control act and other acts in this session of congress. so now we wait to see the revenue piece to that.
for the fiscal cliff deal that include as tax increase for the rich. he met with business leaders in washington d.c. and he is aware that some republicans may be willing to raise tax revenues. but he warped the gop not to pick another fight on the debt sealing. he was can dade -- death ceiling and he was can -- he was candid. >> this is the top 2%. includes all of you, yes. >> i believe there is a purpose to put revenues on the table. >> house speaker boehner countered the president's proposal without raising individual tax rates. the republican plan also includes 600 billion in spending cuts to federal healthcare programs and increase in the eligibility age for medicare. >>> a san francisco blogger and activist is in hot water of a photograph after political opponent. michael petrellis took this of scott weaner last year in a pact room. >> he tried to take a picture of him at an urinal. and today, he pleaded not guilty to misconduct. he wants it to be made as part of the from. >> we will be fighting the case and despite the fact that the photograph was taken, we are talking fundamentally of a ge
we have to do is fight to the death even over the fiscal cliff to protect tax cuts for wealthy people -- >> what about -- it's not about protecting tax cuts for the rich. >> that's what you're attacking him for. >> no. i don't think government should do symbolic things. raise the taxes on the rich, you get eight days of spending -- you get eight days of taxes. where are the cuts coming from? so-called fiscal cliff is a bipartisan deal, it's the root of a bipartisan deal and they ought to go on and take their medicine. we're trying to say right now we're going to trust the guys who came up with the fiscal cliff to get it right this time. there have been 18 debt and deficit commissions since 1980. >> so you're saying they came up with spending cuts that satisfied you, you would -- >> i would go to the clinton tax rates in a heartbeat if we got clinton's gdp spending rates. >> well, one of the things i think liberals are starting to resent also, wolf, is that we are fighting so hard over this sort of modest issue of tax cuts for the wealthy. and people are completely dismissive about how
over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not the case. it is, without a doubt, a cliff. it's $600 billion. the economy cannot withstand that shock. it's slowing in anticipation. lou: $600 billion in taxes? >> spending reductions and tax increases. the economy can't handle that. without a doubt, head into recession if we're over the cliff. lou: now, are you in agreement? >> i am, carl's absolutely right, nevertheless, the markets have effectively been yawning. equity markets, go higher, corporate credit market improves, commodity prices rising, and the ten-year treasury yield is dipping to new lows. i can't figure this out. everybody seems to -- lou: i know -- >> they are in a mood, and that worries me. somebody has to be wrong, and big time. >> yawning until they don't. that
. will they survive the fiscal cliff? is it a tax deduction for the rest next? >> reporter: ♪ gerri: one source of new revenues under discussion in the fiscal of today limiting deductions for the wealthy, even charitable deductions. it's a controversial idea that has cut and a lot of attention following a recent washington post op-ed. overwhelmingly the charitable deduction benefits the wealthy. here to discuss, president of independent sector and stacey stewart, president of the united weight both of whom met at the white house with the president. white house officials pleading there case. i can't imagine having to better guess for this segment. i want to start with this idea because it kind of blew me away when i saw. a major beneficiary for the charitable deddction, the %-i thought what about that charities and all the people who do -- to rely on them for there good work. let's start with you. entellus the, you know, who does benefit from the charitable deduction? who does your charities serve? >> the notion that the charitable deduction benefits the wealthy is simply the wrong way to think about t
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and others to avoid the fiscal cliff between now and december 31st but take what we agree on which is that the middle class tax cuts should be extended and tax rates should not go up for the middle class, let's do that now. the republicans refuse to do that thus far, which is sort of baffling. even some of their senior members like tom cole from oklahoma have said let's take that deal, but let's pass the tax cuts for the middle class and we're talking about making sure that tax rates for 98% of all americans and 97% of all businesses. it's a small percentage of individuals that make more than $250,000 a year that tax rates would go up just a little bit. we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an
about? fiscal cliff? >> yes. >> trillions of dollars of spending cuts and tax increases that are going to happen when the ball drops on new year's eve unless president obama and congress come to a compromise. >> all right. so we're all doomed?. >> it's like the movie "saw" you have to cutoff your arm or die. so the day will come, they'll cutoffhe
and congressional leaders gathered to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff, the automatic spending cuts and tax increases that go into effect january 1. >> i think we're farther apart but we're coming together. >> i think we're nowhere, period. >> thursday treasury secretary tim geithner presented obama's plan, including $1.4 trillion in tax increases. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> president obama also proposed a $16 billion of spending cuts. >> i'm just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> the house speaker says republicans put increased revenues including efforts to close tax loopholes and put the tax cuts on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> if there's another way to get income from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it. >> those are publicly unchanged deadlines. whether political theater or political reality, there's more to going over the fiscal cliff far beyond hypothetical. >> i think we're going over the clif. >> if they are going to force higher rates on
report on companies issuing special dividends to avoid fiscal cliff tax hikes. >>> when it comes to attracting business, don't mess with texas. >> shake and bake. that just happened. >> more from texas governor rick perry. >>> plus we'll talk to his go-to guy for business development as the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ jump back to texas it's not the same since you went away before you lose your accent ♪ ♪ and forget all about the lone star state ♪ ♪ there's a seat for you >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with becky quick, andrew ross sorkin is off this week. our guest host this morning rick perry, the handsome distinguished governor of texas. why do people say great state of texas every time you say it? >> because you don't want to mess with texas basically. >> much more to come from the governor. >>> the white house is rejecting a republican proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the ten-year, $2.2 trillion plan keeps bush-era tax cuts in place for all taxpayers. the white house has maintai
. >> stephen: fiscal cliff, yeah. >> trillions of dollars of spending cuts and tax increases that are going to happen when the ball drops on new year's eve unless president obama and congress come to some sort of compromise. >> stephen: all right so, we're all doomed. >> it's like the movie thaw you have to either cut off your arm or die. so they will come-- they will cut off their arm. >> stephen: do you know, do you know what kind of ratings the news could get if they could get politicians to cut off their arms on camera? okay. -- (cheers and applause) >> stephen: as i said senior white house correspondent for abc news. the only news anybody watches any more. >> i think that's true. >> stephen: and you have got eye new book here called the outpost, an untold story of american valor. this is about the war in afghanistan. >> it's about one combat outpost in afghanistan, 14 miles from the pakistan border, built at the bottom of three very steep mountains, built in 2006. and overrun in 2009 by the taliban. >> stephen: let's put a picture of this space right here. >> that's it. >> stephen: the
about in fiscal cliff and sequestration and tax increases minimum august of 2011. all they've done is nothing except have a lot of chatter, no product they had the super committee november of 2011, could not reach an opinion, the super committee meet in december? january? no. did anybody do anything in this town. the most they did in august they went on vacation and campaigned for their jobs they took off august, september, october, early november they came back to november now we are worried they can't get a decision before their christmas vacation. to me i'm thinking like go figure, any business owner working with his own money would never do that am i too hard on politicians? >> no. what this comes down to is the need for leadership in our country. think about all the problems that you just espoused. to consider that you take all those problems and then you have to acknowledge the leader of and the cause of many of those problems was just reelected for four more years of the same. four more years of the status quo what does obama doo out of the chute overtax and over and out man
go up. and you know, there are some taxes that would go up if we two off the fiscal cliff. you're talking about a family that makes about $50,000 having a tax increase of $4,000. melissa: congresswoman, this drives me crazy. when we look at all the numbers we immediately start talking about taxes. it seems like we're looking for revenue under every single rock. that's fine. even if we raised taxes that are proposed by the white house, it will raise $82 billion. it is one half of 1% of the problem. we have a $16.3 trillion debt. all of this talk about raising taxes doesn't get us even close to solving the problem. it doesn't even start the conversation. it is not a drop in the bucket. we've got to reform our spending or grow the economy. but just raising taxes isn't going to do it. >> well, i agree with you 100%. that's why the president as well as the democrats have called for a balanced approach. so of course we can't raise enough taxes to completely deal with the deficit. and you do have to do reforms. you need to reform the tax system. you certainly need to make additional c
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really avert the fiscal cliff 4908% of american families, at least when it comes to income tax. and it's necessary. we know what happened over the last several decades when it comes to progressivity, income inequality in our country. it's the worst it's been in almost 90 years. through 1980 and 2005, in a 25 year period in time, more than 80% of total increase of american income went to the wealthiest 1%. since the recession ended, more than 90% of the income growth in america has gone to the top 1%, while the media income to the middle class has declined to i could go on and give illustrations. i don't think i need to. at least to this group, but i will tell you when we address the issue of revenue and taxes, i have insisted in every meeting i've been in from simpson-bowles to all the games, but it has to at least protect their current progressivity of the tax code, if not improved for those of lower income categories. i think that's a starting principle for those. the second thing is that we must insist on is to protect the safety net for america. make no mistake. as good as we are t
are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff because then taxes go up across the board. >> which is not what the president wants, but there's a big difference between this fiscal cliff and the full faith and credit of the united states. the american government has never defaulted on its debt. and now there are some, not the majority of republicans but some on the extreme of the republican party and they seem to be in control, who seem to want to default on our debt. that's crazy. if they cannot be entrusted with the full faith and credit of the united states, they should not have that leverage. >> paul, where were the overtures though? where were the overtures with this deal that was presented? i mean, listen, you don't have to be mensa to know delivering a deal like that was going to make mitch mcconnell laugh. where were the overtures for the democrats? >> first of all, it is an overture, the deal itself. the proposal. it's not the deal, it's the proposal. the republicans have not come with a counterproposal. why? they seem to be intent on falling on their sword for t
offer to resolve the fiscal cliff was anything but flattering. one republican called the offer an insult. both sides are digging in their heels on raising taxes on upper income earners. the white house proposal includes $1.6 trillion in taxes over a decade, 400 billion for medicare, 50 billion in stimulus spending and the end of congressional control over the debt ceiling. susan mcginnis is in washington with more. good morning to you. >> reporter: hey, terrell, good morning. the president's opening salvo there was not well received by republicans. they balked at his plan. he's taking his message to middle class americans at a factory that makes toys. it's a trip republicans are calling an irritant. president obama leaves the white house this morning to head to a toy factory in pennsylvania. he'll tell americans the fiscal cliff will cause holiday shopping to plummet. >> let's give a christmas present to the american people. >> reporter: but the mood here on capitol hill is anything but festive. both sides say the tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at year end are unacceptable, t
that the republicans passed two bills that take care of the fiscal cliff. they extend of the tax cuts and a change the sequestration. the democrats hammer them on that each time. they are not going to give the democrats a chance to hammer them once again. host: our democrats putting deductions and loopholes and specifically on the table? guest: yes, the president has been very specific. he has said, first things first, let's let the high end tax cuts expire and lock in these trillion dollars savings. then he says on deductions, let's cap the major ones, the mortgage interest, the charitable, the state allen local -- and local. the banker's comments of getting 35% subsidy on the mortgage, he will get 20%. -- 28%. and then there are tax cuts in medicare, but they are reasonable. if you do not do these tax deductions and you do not do the high end incumbent bush tax cuts, it gets in devastated. the ryan budget was very back loaded. and it was not in the first 10 years. there are trade-offs. host: maverick writes in and said, i see a problem giving tax -- a problem with giving tax credits for hiring u
, but that high-stakes stalemate is not getting any better. that fiscal cliff, just 29 days until everyone's taxes go up and the white house and congress are absolutely deadlocked right now. >> both sides seeming farther apart than ever. both sides saying, it's your turn to blame. we'll see what happens. >>> also this morning, startling video. it's a little tough to watch but it is okay. it's a prank by a television host setting this magician's hair on fire. now, the magician is okay. he's recovering in the hospital. >> wow. >> what? >> but he is accusing the host of that show of a criminal act. looking at that videotape, it's hard to believe this was any kind of a stunt, as the host claims. >> hard to believe he's okay. >> thank goodness he's okay. >>> wow, also ahead on the show. very special guest today. heidi klum is with us live. here's what she was up to this weekend. looking so glorious. you remember that was supposed to be her halloween costume. hurricane sandy put it on hold and she did a wonderful benefit. to help those who needed it. >> she'll be appearing in full facial crystal this mo
the fiscal cliff prospect is the commendation of tax increases and spending cuts across the board and how they would have negative impacts. so we need to do it in a smart way. even as we find savings, we need to make targeted investments and we need to do things that help our economy and the long-term. >> [inaudible question] >> it is not specifically designed for that. it is the president's broader approach this. significant savings need to be where we can get them, a trillion plus in the budget control act, an additional $600 billion in savings but ford is part of the proposal. and also revenues from the wealthiest 2%, coupled to make the economy grow. it is stronger growth, stronger job creation. as a principle, deficit reduction done well and done right is positive for the economy. >> on the subject of israel, in the last few weeks, you asked about -- [inaudible] [inaudible question] the u.s. has been very steadfast to stand by israel. i'm wondering in light of that, are there any statements that have gone out in regards to what the president has done to express this and what the isra
. you know, if we went over the fiscal cliff, tack taxes would much higher next year on that winning. our crew here, we won a grand total of $4. we'll let it ride. thank you. thank you, everyone. >> and you are splitting that between how many people? >> between 41 people. that's why we'll let it ride. >> yeah. thank you very much. >> he was smart. he bought his own ticket. >>> susan rice is still struggling to find support among her many republican critics. the u.s. ambassador making a second visit to capitol hill yesterday, insisting her comments in the aftermath of the bengahzi consulate attacks were based on intelligence reports. and they were not intended to mislead the american people. but susan collins saying that is a tough sell. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election. >> rice is considered a leading candidate to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. senator collins said she would need additional information before she could support her
look pretty scary from a tax perspective there. if we went over the fiscal cliff it would increase taxes 5.6 trillion. that is 10-year period. fairly say no one believes we would stay on the road for 10 years. i want to do it so you do side by side comparison. spending cuts 1.2 trillion. the president wants to raise taxes 1.6 trillion. cut spending by 600. the house plan looks like sort of a flip-flop of that. what do you think of all these numbers. what do you make of it? what is your first impression? >> i think the point that you made is almost in passing is very ey point. these are projections. the 10-year projections. when was last time in washington 10-year spending projections actually came in at or below what the projections were meant to be? it never happens. same is true on the revenue side with taxes. i think the numbers we're laying out here are probably the quote, unquote best-case scenario in terms of what could actually happen. just in terms of the pure math. not in terms whether or not it is good policy, just in terms of pure math. one reason going over the cliff l
have to leave it there. president obama says no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> how does raising tax rates on the rich help the poor. that is what i don't get. true free market capitalism helps everybody. a rising tide lifts all boats. i'm laugrry kudlow we will be right back. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >> whow does taxing the rich hep the poor rise above poverty and get a job? let's talk to larry elder. he is the author of the great book, "dear father dear son". welcome back. how does taxing successful wealthy people help the poor get out of poverty. well for people who think like i think it doesn't make any sense. but understand something, that is not what
let our economy go over the fiscal cliff if a deal on higher tax rates for the wealthy is not reached? we're checking it out. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> welcome back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, making multiple media appearances, kle including timothy geithner right here in 25 minutes. >> but would things be done faster if it was done privately? in his latest column, jeff goldfor a compares u.s. budget talks to merger proxy battles. jeff joins us to explain about that. plus, we have bob from jones day who
administration will refuse any fiscal cliff deep that does not include a tax hike on the richest americans. geithner remains optimistic despite harsh words from republicans. >> reporter: with the clock ticking in washington and the fiscal cliff moving closer every day, tim geithner said they will only approve a plan with tax rates. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans, because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice they're going to have to make. >> reporter: geithner presented his plan to republicans, calling for $1.6 trillion in revenue and cuts in stimulus spending. he suggested the bush era tax cuts must expire for the wealthiest americans. >> we put forward a very comprehensive, carefully designed mix of savings and tax reforms to help us put us back on a path to stabilizing our debt and living within our means. >> reporter: republicans did not welcome the proposal. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is a rerun of his budget proposal. the revenue proposals are $1.6 trillion in reve
the oil companies. this year to avoid the tax with the fiscal cliff. >> a warning from the centers for disease control this coming flu season could be a particularly bad one. if you have not got a flu shot, you might want to consider it. dr. randy bergen with kaiser in walnut creek says that the strain of the flu is also more polled net this year which is why everyone over the age of 6 months to get a flu shot. especially those most at risk. many people avoid the flu shot out of fear that it will give them the flu. not true says dr. bergen. >> according to the cdc's more than a third of americans have been vaccinated, and the vaccine formulated for this year is well matched to the strands of the virus seems so far. >> the alameda county sheriff's office says that it wants to use drones. this is video of the drones they are talking about. the sheriff's office unveiled them to the public last october saying that the aircraft would be used for search and rescue operations as well as criminal investigations. however, the american civil liberties union is worried that the police could a
proposed his own plan to dodge the fiscal cliff. it includes limiting tax deductions, but no increase in marginal tax rates. and it would change eligibility for medicare and social security over the longer term. bob corker is from tennessee and joins us now from capitol hill. senator, welcome, and first of all, we heard late today that there was a phone conversation between the president and speaker boehner. have you heard anything about that? >> no, i haven't. i've been in multiple conversations today about this. but i've been in a meeting until right now for the last two hours. so i have not been aware of the phone conversation. sphwhrood well, we not hearing any reports other than the fact the call took place, but the fact that it took place, is that good news? >> oh, i don't know, judy. i think there are a the love discussions about what is the best way to get the type of entitlement reforms that everyone knows needs to take place, both republicans and democrats. judy, i have been in i don't know how many meetings in the last two years where there is a lot of commonality around th
connell and others to say that they want repeal of the medical device tax as part of the fiscal cliff deal, this is a tax not on profits, on sales, on revenue. even if you post losses you still have to pay the tax. here's what the letter writers are warning about. if it passes, it will adversely impact patient care can increase cost of health care and adversely impact jobs. it's a 43,000 jobs could be lumped medical device makers. pacemakers, stopping brain aneurysms including prosthetics for soldiers returning from overseas and the issue is why you're hitting us with an excise tax on sales? they did a study which found when you do the math it is actually 80% in federal, state and local including the excise tax. lori: why would they go throughr the medical device makers? the tanning bed tax, the kind of understand. >> here is the rationale. the house want repeal it, but has stalled in the senate. the logic is they have to have health insurance, required to have health insurance, the logic is medical device makers will make a lot of money in sales. they say this $30 billion you will raise o
to the fiscal cliff. ed henry is live with us at the white house. what seem it is to be lost in this is the tax cuts going to expire. that's it. if they want to extend them on some, they can. but he will not allow it on people who make more. what part of this is confusing? >>reporter: a lot of other pieces that are confusing because no one wants to come to the table and work that out. if they just sat down they could probably figure this out. what republicans say they are frustrated about when the president talks about a balanced approach, they say in the campaign it was not just raising taxes on the rich but about cutting spending, that was the balanced approach. if you listened closely today the president focused on the tax changes in the short term, but suggested, then, we could wait for the spending cuts until next year. >> it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system in a balanced way. that includes asking the wealthiest to pay more. >>reporter: republicans believe the president is saying he will
and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony in this that the democrats are saying we've got to raise taxes and the fiscal cliff does both. just not in the way anybody wants it, so if they can't do that, how are they going to find a way they can all agree on? >> the superfailed committee. this is a giant hatchet as opposed to a scalpel. >> it was designed to fail. >> i agree, but the real solution and real irony is going to be the ultimate deal's going to look like the obama boehner grand bargain that was negotiated and almost done in the summer of 2011. the fact that we couldn't make that deal then i think's a tragedy for the country. one of the thing's it did was lead to that aaa downgrading. that was unnecessary. >> let me just follow up on this point of what republicans should accept. you said you'd go back to the clinton era tax rates if you could get the sp
to go over the fiscal cliff. there will be some sort of resolution. they'll come up with some tax cuts, some breaks in spending, and probably kick the can down the road on a lot of it. i love the way this market is acting. it's not selling off with all the bad news, all the bickering, all the bad words on each side. you've got to love the way that this market is holding up here. doesn't mean investors need to be carefree, but overall, it looks like the market is setting up with a lot of negative sentiment out there. looks like there's a lot of opportunity for a big run higher once we get some form of resolution. i really believe we're going to get it. >> you think by year end? >> i really do. i think they want to go home for christmas. they're not going to want to not go home for christmas. you can always count on politicians to do the right thing when all other options have been exploited. they're going to finally get there because they have to. they're not going to solve 100% of it right away. >> jump in, abbigail. >> i think it's too early to be bearish or bullish, for that matter.
if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff because this is a compromise on taxes. this is a compromise on mandatory spending and it's a compromise on discretionary spending over what the select committee had debated. >> the details if we can and i should mention that erskine bowles put out a statement saying this -- does not represent the bowles-simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan. in my testimony before the joint select committee on deficit reduction, i simply took the midpoint of the public offers to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaking boehner's letter, but the question i wanted the to ask you -- >> can we spend one more point on that? >> of course. >> what did he say? that was the midpoint of a compromise from the two. so, here's speaker boehner who is taking a new point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it and it's already flatly rejected? >> i think what he might be rejecting, sir, if i may -- >> no, i'm not talking abo about erskine bowles. >> i think what he's sayin
, you are, i think, correct in the second piece of the fiscal cliff. that is the tax rates that will apply next year. arguably, you don't have to take action this year, you have the whole of next year during which you can reach resolution to that issue. now, the only reason why i think that's an extraordinarily bad idea is i think it would be viewed quite unfavorably by the financial markets. and so you could see a reaction. and it is really bad tax policy to be legislating in the middle of the tax year on the basic structure of the income tax for that year. >> host: we'll go to jeff in tampa, florida, independent caller. >> caller: good morning, how you doing? >> host: good morning, sir. >> caller: yes, i have a question for mr. buckley, and this is more -- it may be a little generic, but something that a couple of my friends and i have talked about and just trying a basic understanding of. instead of having an income tax, has there ever been any discussion about having a national or a federal sales tax to help offset so this way everyone from the rich to the poor, everyon
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